About whether tokenization excuses LLMs failing to count letters in "strawberry".
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About whether tokenization excuses LLMs failing to count letters in "strawberry".
Votes cast 1–2 October 2026: 100,590 votes from 9,694 people.
Indeed, I appreciate the explanation, it is certainly both interesting and informative to me, but to somewhat echo the person you are replying to - if I wanted a boat, and you offer me a boat, and it doesn’t float - the reasons for failure are perhaps full of interesting details, but perhaps the most important thing to focus on first - is to make the boat float, or stop offering it to people who are in need of a boat.
To paraphrase how this thread started - it was someone testing different boats to see whether they can simply float - and they couldn’t. And the reply was questioning the validity of testing boats whether they can simply float.
At least this is how it sounds to me when I am told that our AI overlords can’t figure out how many Rs are in the word “strawberry”.